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Someone on the ToJ forum put forth the hypothesis that Voormas was a hero, the Psychopomps and Avatars are evil, and that the PCs should really be helping V at the end of all that is. I'm sorry, but I call bullshit straight off.

Voormas is strange. He's a ridiculously powerful character -- Entropy 7 -- and he has lofty and insane goals -- unless there are a lot of people who want to supercede the very concept of Death. But his motivation for doing so is one of the most basic of human fears. He's scared of dying.

>>Voormas believe in the cycle of reincarnation<<

But he wants to break it. He is the Last Agent of Control, wanting to make the world "safer" by getting rid of death. He's only running on half the story, of course -- Ascension is Armageddon. Hell is Heaven, it just depends on how you look at it. Voormas has seen it and is *running scared*. He's a frightened, selfish fucker who wants to replace Death -- not to do the universe a favour, but because he is so ultimately fearful of his own. If it was just his own death, he would be more of a sympathetic character. But he wants to exert this influence over everything that is. He thinks he knows best. That's not the mark of a hero.

Voormas is a coward willing to condemn all that is to stultifying aeons because of his own fears There is no difference to him between what is good for him and what is good for reality. He seeks control, in a different form to the Technocrat Control but control nontheless. Mage is all about liberty vs control. Choose control and you get a worthless half-existance without any real achievement. Choose liberty and neglect the final lie that we must believe alike, bring humanity to Ascension.

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baronsamedi
Apr. 22nd, 2004 11:43 am (UTC)
I tend to agree with you, honestly.
thetenthshadow
Apr. 22nd, 2004 11:51 am (UTC)
Bullshit is right.
But people are stupid.

There's a debate on IMDB that Palpatine in the prequels isn't really the Emperor at all, but that Sidious is an entirely and completely, unconnected character.
digitalraven
Apr. 22nd, 2004 12:23 pm (UTC)
What's a "palpatine", and what does it have to do with any of this? Besides proving Star Wars geeks as bad as Star Trek geeks and people who don't grok Mage, of course ;)
thetenthshadow
Apr. 22nd, 2004 12:53 pm (UTC)
You know, that no matter how obvious a point is, there are people bound and determined to miss it. Voormas? A Hero? Right. So was Jack The Ripper, eh? :P
It's just that some people are too dense to find their asses with both hands and a map.
t0tem7
Apr. 22nd, 2004 07:47 pm (UTC)
Well Stew, considering your main antagonist [1] in Mage: The Ascension is Penny Dreadful, I'd think you'd side with crazies like Voormas. He probably agrees with you about her.


[1] Someone who antagonizes?


-- apocalypse survivor
digitalraven
Apr. 23rd, 2004 10:44 am (UTC)
Nah. Penny doesn't rate any mention in Ascension. It is my firm belief that she met the wrong end of a speeding Mack truck after the world realised that her fashion sense died twenty years ago..
mythicfox
Apr. 23rd, 2004 05:53 am (UTC)
unless there are a lot of people who want to supercede the very concept of Death.

Hey, given some of the combat twinks I've seen, apparently there are a lot of people who want to replace Death with themselves.

Yeah, yeah, I know, not quite what you had in mind...
digitalraven
Apr. 23rd, 2004 10:47 am (UTC)
Actually, no. That's exactly what I mean.

Just Voormas is so scared of his own death he'd stop killing people when he got there.
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