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America has told Britain that it can kidnap British citizens if they are wanted for crimes in the United States.

A senior lawyer for the American government has told the Court of Appeal in London that kidnapping foreign citizens is permissible under American law because the US Supreme Court has sanctioned it.

Until now it was commonly assumed that US law permitted kidnapping only in the “extraordinary rendition” of terrorist suspects. The American government has for the first time made it clear in a British court that the law applies to anyone, British or otherwise, suspected of a crime by Washington.

Jones replied that it was acceptable under American law to kidnap people if they were wanted for offences in America. He said that if a person was kidnapped by the US authorities in another country and was brought back to face charges in America, no US court could rule that the abduction was illegal and free him: “If you kidnap a person outside the United States and you bring him there, the court has no jurisdiction to refuse — it goes back to bounty hunting days in the 1860s.”

[And Americans wonder why people hate their country...]


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Dec. 2nd, 2007 01:04 pm (UTC)
Don't hate our country.

Hate our stupid, inbred president and the dark emperor behind him, and the paranoid fuck-wits who keep voting for him and his companions.

And that mouthpiece of a lawyer - because I'm pretty certain it will be another round of the Supreme Court spanking the president. (Plus, I'm sure he'd respect international law if he could spell the word international - or even just pronounce it . . .)
Dec. 2nd, 2007 02:03 pm (UTC)
US law is not unique in that respect.
Dec. 2nd, 2007 05:36 pm (UTC)
Just remember, Wingnut != American. We hate them, too, and they tend to spout the absolutely least American ideals possible.
Dec. 2nd, 2007 10:00 pm (UTC)
Wingnut = American (FSVO "American" == "Representative of the American gov't, which represents the American people.").

If they're the least American ideals possible, why haven't the laws been struck off the books?
-/- - bovilocuvokia - Dec. 3rd, 2007 08:23 pm (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 2nd, 2007 06:38 pm (UTC)
The Great Experiment
Hate to say it, guys, but he's your mess, and your responsibility to do something about it. If the rest of the world intervened, that wingnut would only use it as an excuse to declare your country his country, and then The Great Experiment truly would be over.
Dec. 2nd, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC)
Re: The Great Experiment
An election was stolen, the balance of powers is in shambles and our elected representatives won't represent us b/c TOO EXTREME, and our chattering class of political pundits are in bed with members of the political movements they're supposed to be covering.

I submit that the Great Experiment has already failed rather spectacularly in this case, though perhaps not in a way from which it can't recover.
Dec. 2nd, 2007 07:28 pm (UTC)
Re: The Great Experiment
Absolutely. Before the wingnut decides he'd rather die than lose power and pushes the button.
Dec. 2nd, 2007 08:06 pm (UTC)
Re: The Great Experiment
I'm sort of hoping that his handlers and financiers enjoy being rich and powerful too much to let him anywhere near the real button.
Dec. 2nd, 2007 08:17 pm (UTC)
Re: The Great Experiment
Me too.
Dec. 13th, 2007 12:43 pm (UTC)
Re: The Great Experiment
Nah, it's dead. Time to divorce your ideals from religions of national identity.
Dec. 2nd, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
I don't wonder. But yes I am sure some do, like maybe these kind of folks.

Dec. 3rd, 2007 12:06 am (UTC)
Um, did I miss something there? US law != UK law (Scotland or England or ...). It may be legal for the Americans to kidnap a British citizen in America, but I'm pretty sure it is not legal for the Americans to kidnap a British citizen from Britain.

It sure would be nice to see some of our politicians stand up and say "Uh... no?".
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